In this episode: Chad Peevy
CHAD PEEVY gave himself permission to break and untangle the mindsets he inherited growing up in an emotionally and physically abusive family in rural Arkansas. Childhood trauma caused depression and anxiety to follow him into adulthood, but Chad developed a method for managing those. He realized he could do much better than just survive;he could thrive. Today he writes, teaches, and speaks about what he continues to learn.
Mindset Methods with Chad Peevy
Extraordinary wealth, finance, money, women’s issues, self-development
Janay Harris 0:01
You are listening to ordinary women extraordinary wealth with Marcy Predmore-McPhee. This is the show where we talk about how ordinary women achieve extraordinary wealth. We interview successful business leaders and entrepreneurs to learn about their journeys, discover what success means to them, and go over the various forms of wealth they've been able to achieve. And we'll learn all the best tips and tricks you can start applying in your own life and career. While extraordinary wealth comes in a variety of forms, we don't neglect the financial side. And it's so important for women to feel comfortable talking about money. So in this show, you'll also learn how to put your money to work and keep your money in motion. And use your money to enjoy life today without stealing from tomorrow. Be sure to like and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. And if you find this show valuable, make sure to share it with your friends and colleagues. And now, your host, Marcy Predmore-McPhee. McPhee.
Marcy Predmore 0:59
Well, good afternoon, everybody. And welcome to ordinary women, extraordinary wealth. You know, every time I come on my show, I think of so many faces out there that feel like their story is not extraordinary. But I just want to share with you today as I get ready to bring a new interviewee in who has a phenomenal, extraordinary story that you are truly extraordinary. So just wherever you are, wherever you're listening, just remember, you are extraordinary. So today, I get the pleasure of introducing an interviewee and we got to share just a little bit about each other before the show and I think you're all going to be intrigued because what Chad has to bring to the table is really what so many of us have been through but but have been afraid to maybe share or or maybe embarrassed or humiliated by their growing up story. And so I really am super excited again to just share the story. So without further ado, I'm going to introduce Chad Peavy. Welcome Chad, we are so excited that you're with us today.
Chad Peevy 2:17
Thank you, Marcy Good to be with you. Thank you for the invitation.
Marcy Predmore 2:20
You bet. So I'm just going to share just a little bio, and then Chad's gonna kind of help fill in the blanks. So buckle up, get ready to hear the story of how to survive and thrive. In an everyday world. Chad Peavy gave himself permission to break and untangle the mindsets he inherited growing up in an emotionally and physically abusive family in rural Arkansas. childhood trauma caused depression anxiety to follow him into, into adulthood. But Chad developed a method for managing those, he realized he could do much better than just survive. He could thrive today, he writes teaches speaks about what he continues to learn. So I think what I really want you to hear from this is Chad would be a great resource. If you need somebody, if this resonates, and you need somebody to help you fill in your blanks. So Chad, can you fill us in just a little bit more on your bio?
Chad Peevy 3:30
Oh, goodness, Well, I think what I what would be important for your listeners to know is that my background in my circumstances had I allowed them to could have defined my life in a way that would have been very unpleasant. I write in my books that I had just as much of the chances of being dead or in prison, as I did, to write a book and to start my businesses and just found nonprofits, I could have definitely gone the other way. And what I would want your audience to know is that regardless of your background, regardless of your past, whatever you may have been through those things live in the past, and they don't have to define our future. If we don't want them to. And with work, I'm not gonna lie or or be be woowoo about it in any way. It's, it's, it takes work. It takes serious work and dedication. Once you make that decision that you're going to make something of your life and you're going to find meaning and joy and purpose and happiness in your life and you're going to have relationships that matter that that's possible, if you're willing to put in the work to make that a possibility and a reality for your life.
Marcy Predmore 4:54
That's right. That's absolutely right. And one of the things that I was going to bring up but you did is Chad is the author of mindset methods with no, that's your podcast mindset methods with Chad Peavy. And that is his podcast, the book, I don't have it in front of me. So Chad, can you fill us in just a little bit?
Chad Peevy 5:18
Yeah, of course the book is called breaking untangle. Discover the freedom to be you despite the inherited mindset holding you back. That's
Marcy Predmore 5:27
right. And I, I just really I kind of looked into it, just a quick little blurb. But I think it's a book that I think a lot of people can relate to. So if they want the book, they can actually go to Chad pv.com. And is it media? Or is it free book,
Chad Peevy 5:43
it's free book, I everybody that's listening, I would love to send you a free copy of my book, either a hardcover version, or an E book, whichever suits you. And if you go to Chad peavy.com, forward slash free book, there's a forum there you can fill out and I'll get a book in the mail to you or in your email.
Marcy Predmore 6:02
Oh, that's awesome. Thank you so much for that gift to everyone.
Chad Peevy 6:05
That's absolutely It's my pleasure.
Marcy Predmore 6:07
And before we go into some of the questions that I love to focus on, there's something that intrigued me, Chad in your bio, and that was survive and thrive. I feel like I've also survived in a journey of my journey. We'll just leave it at that. Yeah, I've also thrived. So can you break that out just a little bit on survival, and then thriving through that survival?
Chad Peevy 6:36
Absolutely. So surviving, for me the way I had to make sense of my survival. You know, there there are two kinds of people really that when we grow up, and in the south, I grew up in Arkansas in the south, we said, somebody either has book smarts, or they've got street smarts. And for some of us, we're able to go to school, and, and memorize equations and important historical dates and all of this and make friends easily and fit in. For some of us. We're also learning things, but it's things like how do I not get beat up in a hallway today? How do I not get bullied? How? What do I need to do to stay off my dad's radar tonight when I get home, because I don't know what kind of mood dad's gonna be in today. So both sets of kids are smart. But they're each learning a different set of skills. And one of those kids, the one that's trying to figure out how to navigate safety is learning survival skills. And these survival skills that we learn, don't just suit us growing up, we we carry those into into adulthood. And for me, you know, my story was I was able to get out of Arkansas, went to college eventually moved and went to grad school and moved away from Arkansas completely. And even though I had left, I had been removed, I removed myself from that environment, I still carried those instincts, those survival skills with me. For a while, those survival techniques and skills worked for me. And if you were on the outside looking in, you would have thought Chad Peavy has it all together, he's got the business, the money, the employees, he's got all the things that he's got the car, right, all the right things that we define a success, yes. But what they don't see is the misery that I'm living with inside of myself. And so survival. This, the skill that I take in was basically filling my day, chasing money for the sake of chasing money, or numbing myself with alcohol. Not a lot, but a little, but my big advice was work, I would numb myself and hide for myself by burying myself in my work. And that was the survival skill that worked for a while. But after a while, that survival skill just does not work anymore. And the misery gets to a point where you're so lonely, I battled depression, all of my life, battled anxiety all in my life. And it just comes to a point where it's like, I'm, I'm either gonna lean all the way into life, and figure out a way to make my life work better. Or I'm checking out Yes, and you know, I, I made that decision that, you know, I don't have anything to lose. So I'm going to lean all the way in, I'm going to figure this out. And that's when I really really went into personal development. Yes, I have been doing therapy since fourth grade. So I had that little piece of it. But there was so much more that I needed to learn and explore and integrate into my life and personal development going down this path created that for me, so that I could eventually thrive and thriving to me, meant deeper relationships. Not feeling lonely all the time by I can remember being in a room full of people and still feeling lonely and, and that's just it's an extraordinarily painful feeling.
Marcy Predmore 9:58
It is and I think all relate to that? Yeah. are many of us.
Chad Peevy 10:03
Yeah, many too many of us, I think can relate to that. And so that's that's what thriving meant. For me it meant, you know, getting getting in touch with my purpose. Feeling like my life meant something feeling like when my feet hit the floor in the morning, and that I had a reason to get up, I had to figure out a way to make my daily life more interesting than Netflix. You know, like, I get a choice, I can lay here in bed and Netflix and chill, or I can go after what I want in life. Yeah. And I had to figure out what what would give me that purpose and meaning and joy so that my life was more interesting than a screen and work. And so that's Marcy, that's how I basically sum that up that the survive versus thrive instinct.
Marcy Predmore 10:47
And you know, Chad, I love that because, again, as I said, I think there's many that can relate to those words in that story. And, you know, as you and I got into our entrepreneurial journey, sharing our stories with the world, I think sometimes that helps, that holds us back a little that little voice. So the mindset is so important to get that negative out of the way out of the journey and be able to lean in, as you were saying, to the journey of thriving and staying in this the surviving mode. So I just I really love that. And, and I'm assuming we're going to talk a little bit more down the way, just snippets about your book. So we'll talk about that, because there's some things in there that we can draw out.
Chad Peevy 11:42
No mercy on that point, you made me remember something that I have to think about? Yes. You know, on my entrepreneurial journey, I have to remember that there is no end in life, there is no destination. That's the ultimate destination is death. So I had to get to a place where I enjoyed the journey. Yes, no matter what I'm doing, no matter what's going on, no matter what I'm in pursuit of the journey itself is what matters. Yes. You know, as a business owner, there's always the next quarter, the next year, the next thing to review, right, but am I enjoying every day along the way to get there? I, I have to remind myself of that often.
Marcy Predmore 12:24
Absolutely. And, and so many times, I wake up in my gratitude mode, and I realize that the day is a gift, and we get to unwrap whatever, whatever there is to be offered to us. Absolutely journey. And every day is the day to lean in to really be excited about what's before us. And it could be a rough day. But that rough day just gets you to the next day and opening that gift. So that's right, I listen to always. Absolutely. So how we like to get started on ordinary women extraordinary wealth is I have a couple pretty broad questions. But I really like for people to be able to relate to you and I so Chad, one of the questions that I like to ask is What does success mean to you?
Chad Peevy 13:18
Yeah, I love that. I love that you asked this question. So in my work success, means one's ability to see Marcy as Marcy, and for me to see me as me in the present moment, meaning that I don't look at you, and subconsciously, or sometimes consciously project my mom issues, or my dad issues onto you. I don't look at you and say, oh, Marcy is a white woman in finance, she shares characteristics with that awful lady that I once knew way back when and therefore Marcy must be awful also. So my relationship with you being seen through the lens of my past. So instead of that, you get to be you. And this is extraordinarily difficult to do. Yet the flipside of this is, I also give myself permission to be me, for who I am right here right now. And I'm not judging myself, or being critical of myself. Because of experiences in my past. And I think for entrepreneurs and people who are building their careers, this is especially important because I think what this does to us is it can make us gun shy with taking risk as we mature, or as we get more experience. Yeah. I'm currently on the third iteration of my business, I've owned my own business for coming up on 20 years and this is the third iteration of my business evolution and I would be lying if I said that the the second and third go at making a change or allowing my business to evolve, I didn't find some points where I was holding myself back. Because that internal dialogue was causing me to second guess myself or criticize myself or judge myself based on the past. Yeah. And so to drive, drive home this point about our projections, you know, one real example of this comes from me in the hiring process. I've made some really serious hiring mistakes in the past, I think we all we all can now I look at people as I'm bringing them into my hiring process. And I have sometimes a hard time allowing them to be them. I see them through the shared characteristics of old hires, you know, what if it's a young person, I think about the last young person that went wrong, right. And it's unfair to me, because it keeps me at a distance and closed off to opportunities, and relationships. And it's definitely not fair to the other person. So all the while that internal dialogue that I have is giving judgment and criticism, instead of seeing those past experiences as education. So all that to say, my work and how I define success, is when you get to be in the present, and allow everyone to be who they are, including myself, absent our projections or transference. So that means being free of the inherited mindsets that we that are holding us back from what we want out of our life, and keeping us closed off to what is here and now.
Marcy Predmore 16:34
Oh, wow, what a great definition of success. I really love that because I think so many times in our everyday life, we fall back again, what we were just talking about earlier, we fall back again on either someone we've known hired friends with friends not with anymore. And that tends to come into play sometimes as we get to know people as we, as we judge, which we you know, I mean, it is a fact of life, we tend to do that. But I really love that definition. Chad, thank you very much. Yes. And so next question. This'll This is always my my intrigue, because extraordinary wealth started out. My other company is private banking concepts calm. And we really like to share the basics of money and helping people to really have a different mindset around money. So one of the things that I always like to ask is, what does wealth mean to you? Because some people don't feel that it's money. Some do when you use the word wealth, sometimes it comes up as money. So Chad, what does wealth mean to you?
Chad Peevy 17:54
Again, I really love I love all of your questions, because they made me really think about some things in a new way. For me, wealth is about wellness. And what I write about in my book, I write about basically, I call it personal freedom. Some might call that enlightenment or salvation, Maslow's hierarchy of needs. He calls it self actualization. And self actualization are this personal freedom that I talked about is our person, personal potential, fully realized. And my thinking is that to fully realize our potential, it requires fulfilling our life's purpose. And as I write about in the book, I believe we all share a common purpose. And I think that purpose is to serve one another. How is another story, but at the core purpose, I think is all about how we serve other people. And I believe that wealth is the realization of that lifelong endeavor. And I don't want to give, I don't wanna give the wrong impression that that wealth isn't money. Money, for me is certainly a form of wealth. I'm in the personal development space, but I'm very much a business person. And I like money. And, you know, I like shiny things. Yes. But you know, so for me, as much as I like shiny things, there is no personal fulfillment for me in the pursuit of money for the sake of money itself. Yes. And so I believe that financial wealth, accrued in alignment with our purpose is, is is extraordinarily satisfying, and meaningful. Yeah. And I believe we can do the most good to further our own realization of our life's purpose. When we reap the benefits of that financially. Yes, and it certainly allows us to serve more widely, and I don't make any judgments about wealth being finances bigger, saw, bigger, small, but I do think it is in the pursuit of our purpose, that wealth aids in our over We're all wellness and personal freedom as a human being.
Marcy Predmore 20:03
I, again, I love that, and pursuit of our purpose, because you know, money does have its place. And as an entrepreneur for us to, you know, keep going keep the the doors open, if you want to call it that you do have to have money. Wealth truly is what you had talked about is wellness, it, it's a wellness around that growth also. And I really, really appreciate that too. And for people to actually realize that's what it is. And being an entrepreneur is so exciting anyway, yes, there's ups and downs, yes, some of some days, we want to just close the curtains and not not appear. But entrepreneur to, to really, and I use these words all the time, because Zig Ziglar is always in my mind. But the more you help other people get what they need and want, the abundance really flows to everyone involved. And so really, to me, that's what wealth truly is. And I think that's how you really stated it is, you know, really, it is wellness. So I really, I really enjoyed that. Thank you very much.
Chad Peevy 21:19
Marcy Predmore 21:20
And I'm gonna I'm gonna jump to a question that I asked a little further down only because it kind of fits into that. So what was your tradition around money growing up? And how differently is it today for you and your family?
Chad Peevy 21:35
Absolutely. So I got as an entrepreneur, I got to a place in my business where I had this awakening, that the way I was working with men, was very different than the way I worked with women. Okay. And I would work really hard to impress the men to get their approval to go above and beyond to make them happy with the services my company was offering them. And the sad truth is, sometimes I would charge them. Sometimes I would discount that. Sometimes I wouldn't charge at all, because the payoff for me was often the satisfaction of their approval. And it sounds pathetic as I say it, but that was the reality of it. Yeah. with women. No problem asking for money. Yeah, my company does this. This is how much it costs. Would you like to pay with cash or use your credit card today? No problem. So when I started unpacking what was going on with that, it became clear to me that the traditions around money that I grew up with, were creating this weirdness in my business. Because when I grew up any money that I got for lunches, school, anytime, you know, we needed school supplies, or field trip money or clothes, it all came from mom 100% came from mom. And my dad's money was absolutely off limits. Even this was when people got paychecks, and they brought their pay stubs home and his pay stubs were always kept in a jar above the refrigerator. And that jar was off limits. And his wallet. It always sat on top of our it's when we had this giant microwave cabinet. Yeah, when microwaves were enormous. Yeah, as well. It was always on top of the microwave. And I was never to touch it. And but there was the occasion when he would be like, you know, Hey, bring me my wallet. But don't look at it. Like, stay out of it. So I saw my dad's money was very much off limits and used to support by so I'm spending money on like hunting and fishing stuff. Yeah. So you know, that's, that's what I learned. That was the tradition. So and you know, formally my parents didn't give me any financial literacy. They never sat me down and talked to me about money. They never made it a priority or how to manage it. But everyday Marcy, they were through their behavior, teaching me a lot about money. Yes. And without intentional lessons, like when we're not intentional about our money mindset, and I write about money mindset is one of the mindsets I talked about in the book. But just when we're not when we're not intentional about that. Just like in so many areas of our life, we grow up and we either echo or we rebel against what we learn from our parents. Yes. So in my business, I had echoed this idea that money comes from women, not men. And what a great you know, another example was, you know, my parents never had a credit card growing up. That was just they were solid people financially for themselves, but they never, they never used credit. on that one. I rebelled as a young adult with no financial literacy. I went out and had to learn those lessons the hard way. So when we're not intentional about what we're teaching the people around us that matter to us, you know, they're going to end up growing up and And echoing or rebelling against those traditions or those ideas? And so that was that was mine.
Marcy Predmore 25:07
You know what, and that is so true A lot of times, and in many of the stories of my interviewees is their parents didn't share anything, any literacy about finance, but they picked it up by visual and emotional example. Yeah. So then as as your own entrepreneur today, have you been able, I mean, besides making maybe mistakes with a credit card or, or with finances, because you had to learn the journey? Do you feel like now you've created a pattern for you in your entrepreneurial and your life's journey today around money?
Chad Peevy 25:47
Yes, definitely. So So I, I take up the habit of looking each week at at my, what happened last week, and not just with my finances, but everything that went on in my business, I will take Sundays to go back and review everything that went on financially and otherwise, kind of keep score. Yeah, I'm keeping score. Yeah, that's a great way to put that. So I've had to learn how to do that. My husband is much better with money than I am. And he has definitely taught me a lot over through our relationship about that. And so I've picked up a lot, a lot of those lessons from him. But the main thing for me was just allowing myself to bring awareness to the money, that the money doesn't have to remain secret or remain off limits or remain out of sight or not thought of. And now like when I do a workshop, one of the most popular things that I do at my workshop is we write our money stories together. And I'm, I'm very open about the successes and the failures and the embarrassment and the shame, but also the victories that I've had along the way. I love it. You know, money only has meaning. Money only has the meaning that we give it.
Marcy Predmore 27:07
Chad Peevy 27:11
pick what you want it to mean. I found that a lot in my book about you know, it just because it's so pervasive and persistent in our lives, I think we give it an overinflated sense of meaning, scorekeeping. Especially men I've noticed it's a mean of keeping score and measuring manlihood and it's just you know, if that's the way you want to live, again, you're not going to find the joy, the meaning of the personal freedom that I talked about. And I so yeah, that's that's how I look at it, Marcy,
Marcy Predmore 27:45
you know what and and really, that makes such total sense. And I really love that that you share that in your workshop and I can't wait to read the book for for many reasons, but one of them is that because when your wealth when your money is out of focus, or or out of whack, your whole life is so lovely, that just springboards me to one of the next questions because your business is mindset, helping people to really understand where they've come from, where they're going, maybe where they are currently. Let's talk about a day in the life of Chad, what does your day look like?
Chad Peevy 28:24
Yeah. Pretty boring mark. Pretty boring not only for productivity purposes, but also for managing my own mental health routine is extremely important for me. So do you want me to just give you a rundown of what a day looks like Marcy, is that okay?
Marcy Predmore 28:50
You bet Yes. Okay.
Chad Peevy 28:51
So I'm, I'm a big time blocker. I live on routine. On the weekdays. I do allow myself to be you know, live free and fancy on the weekends, but my weekdays are pretty structured. So I'll start around getting up around 545 I'm either getting on the peloton for a cardio workout or I'll jump on the total for for strength training. I shower and get ready I make my coffee or tea and then I read for about two hours every morning. Wow. I'll meditate on up to about 20 minutes meditating. And so that comes next. I make my breakfast I tackle after breakfast I'll tackle any deep work that I need to do that needs to happen without distraction and while I'm freshest for an in the headspace for that kind of work. Then I'll do lunch. And then in the afternoons, I'm usually not all there in the afternoon. So if anything that's distracting or meetings or a lot of noise going on. Those things are done in the afternoons. If I don't have any meetings or anything like that, and the afternoons that I'm doing, then I'll be doing stuff in my business that is, you know, working on the marketing stuff. It'll happen then working on my business to say, right, that's the day in my life. I mean, it is extraordinarily boring, but necessary for me to be productive, and also take care of myself.
Marcy Predmore 30:27
Well, and again, it's your thrive, it's how you thrive and you've learned that sometimes you have to be focused on in might seem mundane, but to grow you. So just tell the audience just a little bit because you're so in the mindset, what do you do to grow you I know you read two hours a day, but do you have a pattern of like, for instance, my one of my mentors, Bob Proctor, he has us and I read it every day, for 30 days, I read one chapter, and then I write about it, or I write something that really popped out what, what, what works for you to grow Chad.
Chad Peevy 31:08
So there are a couple of things that I that I do and I love that you're you're reading and then writing about it. I do something similar, I keep notes in my iPad. And I'm allowed to you know, I can use the Apple Pencil pencil and write which is my own, like tactile fixation that I need to do that. But I will I will read in the mornings, I'm highlighting the I only use physical books because I'm, I'm in that weird age where it was like I was born a little too late to really get into the digital stuff. And when I need to flip the page, yeah, but I've always got my highlighter in my hand, when I read and I'm highlighting what I'm reading that stands out to me or or my I want to bring attention back to later, then I'll go to the iPad, when I'm done. And I'll reflect and I use I usually do that every day, because I'm part of my business is creating frameworks and taking what I'm reading. Having that makes sense to me in my life. And then how can I use this information to help the people that I'm working with. And so I try to create frameworks based on what I'm reading with, you know, the Chad's been put on it. And so that's what I do. The other thing that I do to grow myself. That internal dialogue thing was a real problem for me, the internal critic, and I had to figure out, if I'm going to grow, that guy needs to shut up. What I did, every night, before I go to bed, I keep a journal next to my bed. And I will write down three good things that happened today. And why they were good. I love that idea. This seems silly, on its face, but the benefit that I got out of that was after doing it for a while, all of a sudden, you'll find yourself during the day, looking for those three things you're going to write down that night. And it has this way of getting that internal dialogue that's so critical and so judgmental, looking for the good all the time, instead of criticizing what's going on or looking for the bad or, and looking for the bad. But by the way, as we started out, that's an that's a consequence of a survival instinct, the survival instinct is to look for threat, and to mitigate the the chance of danger. So that's what that's about. But by doing this exercise, it reprograms your mind to start looking for the good. Because I know tonight I've got to write down three good things and why those were good. And, you know, sometimes that's more difficult than other days sometimes, you know, my my fallback is I have my health, which shouldn't be a fallback. But it's like, you know, today I've got my health and that's a good thing. Yes. So those are, those are a couple of things that I do to sort of support my own growth. And keep it consistent, and a part of my routine,
Marcy Predmore 34:00
and with what you do in your business. So let's just stop just for a second. Sure. Let's just talk just a tiny bit about your business. So if I were to come and say, Chad, I really I was intrigued by what I saw on your website or in your book. Tell us just a little bit about why somebody would come and what are your workshops in tale? Just tell us just a little bit about the flavor of your business?
Chad Peevy 34:29
Sure. So I offer coaching, one on one coaching or workshops and, and training so like right now like today I'm working on a presentation, I'm doing a three series presentation for a corporate group who has diversity and inclusion group within their company, and they've hired me to come in and do three presentations with that group workshops with that group. Okay, so that's that's the kind of thing I'm working Today, when I think about though, I, honestly, Marcy, this is gonna be a little bit messy because, you know, I came out of the, I owned the marketing firm for the world's largest real estate office. And so that was an extremely transactional business. Yes, I've had to really shift my mindset, doing personal development stuff. Because it's not, it's not transactional. For me, that was part of me finding meaning. And what I do is I, the transactional stuff, just doesn't do it for me anymore. So I've, what I've done is I've charted out sort of his progress of what I need my students or my clients to go through, so that they can begin to break and untangle their inherited mindsets, the things that are holding them back, that are preventing them from their lives working better, and then getting out there one other life, right? That doesn't come from Oh, buy my course, and do this, and everything's great for you from now on, or, you know, buy just the book and read that and life is fixed. That's just that was not my journey. I seriously doubt that's going to be the journey for for my people. Right? Right. So what I've done is I've sat down, I've outlined the progress that I went through that I think that I can help shortcut, make easier, less painful, more organized and structured for somebody to go through their break and untangle process. So that comes in the form of coaching, webinars, workshops, group interactions, group trainings. So that's, that's what someone would get from me. And that's how I deliberate.
Marcy Predmore 36:40
I get that's great. So is it individual coaching or corporate or both? It's both. Both. It's if somebody wanted to do an individual if they had something specifically they wanted to work on, it's individualized. So That's right. That's right. Awesome. Now and if they want to, if anybody does want to get with Chad, it's Chad at Chad, PB comm is a way to reach out. And as I said, he has a podcast mindset methods with Chad PV, and that is on Lisbon. I always say it wasn't wrong. But Lipson
Chad Peevy 37:17
Yeah. Or I think they it's, I think they propagate that out to wherever you get your podcast, you'll be able to find it.
Marcy Predmore 37:23
Yeah. So personal development truly is. is the foundation, I guess I would say around the business that you do.
Chad Peevy 37:33
Yes. Which is a struggle. Like, how do you how do you convince a corporation that what they're people really need isn't some tactical thing, but a very personal thing, to unlock their potential so that they're happier human beings and better employees and greater leaders, and working as a team, working as a team being able to communicate, being able to have relationships with their co workers that are productive and efficient, you know? Yes. Um, so it, it's under the guise of personal development, but I would, I would argue that it's very much in line with our professional goals as well.
Marcy Predmore 38:17
I yeah, absolutely. I think that's a really good definition. And, and it just brought me back a little bit to in the life of day of Chad, let's talk just a tiny bit about mentors. For me, mentors are, I think they're crucial. And me too, in my life, and some of them are not even living. Some of them are living. And some of them are books for me, but mentors are super important, and especially to the industry that you're in, tell us a little bit about maybe a mentor that has changed your life, and how you work through being mentored.
Chad Peevy 39:01
Hmm. So first, I had to, I learned many years ago, I had this idea that some old man with white hair is gonna show up in my life. And he's gonna show me all the ways of the world and create opportunities for me and protect me from all the boogeyman. And that dude just never showed up. And honestly, had that guy showing up for me, I don't know that I was in a place where I could have received that kind of help. So that was like my own stuff, right? So I had to redefine how I thought of mentors. And this was I love that you mentioned Marcy, that mentor. Your mentors are both dead and alive. And I think mentors can be near or far like you they can be books or YouTubes or someone that you listen to on a podcast like they're their mentors. All around us. I had to create a community of mentors for me, and actually give a detailed framework of creating this community of mentors in my book. Because I think it's so, so important. I also think it's really important that we offer grace to our mentors. I am not a big fan of canceled culture to be controversial, but I'm not a fan of canceling people who have gifts and something to give I believe in grace and personal redemption, and forgiveness because I too, need those things and and hope too, that I'm allowed to evolve and grow as a human being. But that means that when I'm creating this community of mentors around me, I have to direct my ask or receive in a wise intelligent way. So I might go to tiger woods for golfing advice. I'm not going to go to him for marriage advice. I might go to Warren Buffett for investing advice. I'm not going to go him tan for dance lessons. Yeah. So I as a recipient, as the mentee have to also take responsibility for what I accept. And when I allow into my life, what I the filter that I put them through. So specifically, I mean, I have mentors for different seasons of my life. Right now for this season, I'm I'm really digging into the human potential movement of the of the 1960s, the influencers in that movement, and some of the people who came out of it. So I'm reading a whole lot of Fritz perls. And about Gestalt therapy. I'm reading a lot about Werner erhard, and his Astor program, and how that kind of took over the country back back in the early 70s. But also, you know, I joined Brendon Burchard, mastermind some time ago, and I looked for him for business advice. Brendon is one of those people that were I think I went to a brynden event. And I fell in love with the message. And again, it was very much run far. I was in a crowd of 2500 people. But Wow, it felt like he was talking to me. Yes. And then as that relationship evolved, you know, I joined his I did buy some of his online courses, again, from a distance, but I'm learning from him. Then I joined his mastermind group that, you know, a group of 30 to 50 people and you're in, he's in that group, and you're a little bit closer, and like, he knows your name, but you're not like super close. And again, this was because that's how I needed to receive mentorship. I was very skeptical. And I've always been skeptical because of that survival thing, right? I'm looking for danger, I'm looking for a reason for you to hurt me. So it was really important that I go through this evolution with him. Yes. Then I reached out to Brendan, and through email, and developed the relationship that way, then Brandon reached out to me and invited me to speak at one of his events. And so then I'm like, very much knows who I am. And I'm allowing him a little bit closer. Then we exchanged you know, text messages. And so then it's like, we're even a little bit more down this evolution of our relationship, right? Yeah. So that's, that's been my mentorship journey very much like you are, it's like they can be dead or alive books, YouTube, but they're also like, I crave closeness and connection with a mentor, as well. And so I've been doing that with Brendon, slowly, very slowly, like over years of developing that, and allowing that kind of closeness.
Marcy Predmore 43:46
You know what, and that is so true. And, and boy that truly resonated with me, I'm a real relationship person also. And so for me, that just gives me a different connectivity. I have many mentors, the same as I said, some are not living anymore, but I have one in particular Bob Proctor, he is that older white haired gentleman, yeah, who has a lot of people would look at his ordinary journey that's become exceedingly extraordinary. And it's because he was so ordinary. But one of the things that I did also is we were able to go to Bob's home, and I was doing a live message on social media and he popped into the message. And from then on, I just have had a little bit different connection to Bob. And sometimes that really makes a difference too. But for me, I really feel like having a mentor, having, you know, whether it be a book, whether it be a podcast, whatever that may be, that it's just really crucial for everybody to take the time to seek out a mentor. Enter if you don't have one, but if you do, you probably have had mentors in your life. And you don't even realize that some,
Chad Peevy 45:07
absolutely my husband's a mentor to me, you know. And I think what you said about your relationship with Bob is so important. Because it's, it's, yes, it's great to have the YouTube and the books and all of that. But there's also something that just that human connection where there is a person, and when that person sees you, yes, that's, that's different. That's, that's, that's a different level. And I think you're right, it's so important that we seek out mentors dead and alive. But you know, I would encourage anybody listening, seek out that live one. And really be intentional about developing that relationship in a respectful way, for that other person, but also in a way that feel safe for you. I think, I think you will, you will experience a different level of, I don't know, I don't know if I want to call it validation. But just being seen. Oh, it will feel really good to you.
Marcy Predmore 46:08
Yes, yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, I, this time has flown by and Chad, I have so appreciated your extraordinary journey. And just your vulnerability to share with us where you've come from and where you are today. And, and really what you have to offer. So I cannot stress enough to the audience today. If this resonated with you in any way, please reach out to myself or to Chad, I would love to hear your extraordinary journey. And if you need somebody to walk alongside of you, Chad is an amazing coach, that's been where you possibly are, but is achieved, possibly what it is you're trying to achieve. And so that's always such a great guide on this journey of life as someone who's been where you've been, but as achieved what you have achieved. So Chad, thank you so much.
Chad Peevy 47:10
Thank you, Marcy,
Marcy Predmore 47:11
we truly appreciate it. We will have your information in the show notes today in case anybody does want to reach out. But I just want to really quickly ask, can you just give us one parting Tip of the Week, on, on life on daily daily activity, whatever that may be Tip of the Week.
Chad Peevy 47:33
So Tip of the Week, really short and really concise. I have this little mantra anytime I'm not feeling like Chad. It's probably because I'm thinking too much about Chad. And so my little tip of the week is get out of yourself and get into service. Get out of yourself and get into service no matter what's going on. If you're feeling blue, not feeling quite like yourself. There's no cure, like helping somebody else to make yourself feel great. So get out of self and get into service.
Marcy Predmore 48:01
So glad this is recorded because that tip is one of the best tips we've had in a while. Chad, thank you again, so much. And thank you audience for just tuning in today to ordinary women extraordinary wealth. And again, I would just love to hear your extraordinary. So everyone have an extraordinary week, and we will see you soon.
Janay Harris 48:27
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