Ordinary Women, Extraordinary Wealth

Ep. 32: Jennifer Crowley

November 03, 2021 Marcy Predmore-McPhee Season 1 Episode 32
Ordinary Women, Extraordinary Wealth
Ep. 32: Jennifer Crowley
Show Notes Transcript

Guest Bio: 

Jennifer Crowley is a best-selling author, certified life coach, and founder of Changeable Coaching, where she works primarily with women looking to make impactful changes in themselves and in their lives. She is also a leadership consultant, working with entrepreneurs to help them strengthen their management skills and develop healthy cultures of success. 

Prior to her professional life as a coach and consultant, Jennifer made the decision to leave behind a successful 20-year career as an executive in the wine industry to follow her calling and share her path to change and fulfillment.


Changeable Coaching: https://www.changeablecoaching.com/

Ever Wish You Got Hit by a Truck? (Book): https://www.changeablecoaching.com/book/


Social Handles:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifercrowleychangecoach/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/changeablelifecoaching




Janay Harris  0:01  
You are listening to ordinary women extraordinary wealth with Marcy Predmore-McPhee. This is the show where we talk about how ordinary women achieve extraordinary wealth. We interview successful business leaders and entrepreneurs to learn about their journeys, discover what success means to them, and go over the various forms of wealth they've been able to achieve. And we'll learn all the best tips and tricks you can start applying in your own life and career. While extraordinary wealth comes in a variety of forms, we don't neglect the financial side. And it's so important for women to feel comfortable talking about money. So in this show, you'll also learn how to put your money to work. Keep your money in motion, and use your money to enjoy life today, without stealing from tomorrow. Be sure to like and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. And if you find this show valuable, make sure to share it with your friends and colleagues. And now your host, Marcy Predmore-McPhee, McPhee.

Marcy Predmore  0:59  
Well, everybody, welcome to ordinary women extraordinary wealth, I get the privilege and the joy every week of meeting new people, and just really adding to the bouquet of my life. And today, after reading some background, a bio, a little bit of her book, we're going to talk about that, I get the joy of introducing Jennifer Crawley, she is actually

excuse me, I got a little tickle in my throat. She is actually a life coach, and a best selling author. And she really is here to help us understand how to change lanes, no matter your age, no matter the issues. So I'm going to start with a little bio. But first, I would like to welcome Jennifer to ordinary women. Extraordinary. Well, welcome.

Jennifer Crowley  1:54  
Thank you, Marcy. It's a pleasure to be here with you today. I'm excited to chat with you,

Marcy Predmore  1:58  
you that. So just a little bit about Jennifer, she is a best selling author, the book we just discussed certified life coach and founder of changeable coaching, where she works primarily with women looking to make impactful changes in themselves and in their lives. She's also a leadership consultant, working with entrepreneurs, to help them strengthen their management skills, and develop healthy cultures of success. I'm really anxious to hear about that. Prior to her professional life, as a coach and a consultant, Jennifer made the decision to leave behind a very successful 20 year career as an executive in the wine industry, to follow her calling and share her path to change and fulfillment. And you know, as we get into having a little discussion about changing fulfillment, there's just one thing the the book is ever wish you got hit by a truck. And it's it's a really wonderful book, I have not read the whole thing, but I've read quite a bit. And on the back, there were some words that touched me. And I just want to share this with the audience just before we get started. Don't let fear, insecurities or other people's judgments, steal your joy and keep you from living the life you want. Pick up this powerful manual and gain the skills and the confidence. I just love that because so many of us get wrapped up in judgment in failure or what we think is failure. So, Jennifer, I would like you to kind of fill in the blanks with your bio, how did you actually get started in this arena from the wine industry.

Jennifer Crowley  3:48  
So I'm taking a deep breath. I had a kind of an interesting five year period, both personally and professionally. My mother had been diagnosed with breast cancer, I had a beautiful son, I had this big position with this company that it brought with it all the stress and anxiety that you would expect. And on the outside people would look at me and they would say, you know, you have it all. You've got all these different things and you balance them so well. And I was an absolute mess on the inside. I really was. And I had stayed on with a company after it had been sold for about six years. And one day I just walked back into my office after sitting through, you know, meeting after meeting and just said out loud to myself. It's not supposed to be this hard. And that was my turning point in my decision to walk into my boss's office to let him know that it was time for me to go and for me to kind of take a step back and think about what I was going to do next. And I spent some amazing time I'm with my son, which was fantastic. I really, I had an opportunity to bond with him in ways that maybe other people who are juggling so much don't have that opportunity. And I just I woke up one day and I thought, I need to help people, I need to find a way to connect with people. And I decided to take a life coach certification course, just as COVID started in March of 2020, it was the decision had been made, and COVID kind of settled in. And two weeks later, I was already in the middle of the certification course. A month later, I started actively coaching people, because a lot of the things that we were learning about doing, I had already done, I had already kind of become that confident for so many people after our company was sold, that I felt like I was on the right path. And that's what, that's how I got started.

Marcy Predmore  5:51  
That is amazing. And again, that you I share this almost every podcast only because it's the word of the year for me, but it's aware. And I think I'm so impressed with you're aware of what you were really needing, and what was really calling to you. And I think that's so it's so important. But it's also such a joy to actually see somebody take the next step into their awareness.

Jennifer Crowley  6:20  
And it's scary, don't, it was a frightening thing to do. But it, I had to, I could not get to the end of my life without having gone down this path. Because I had this inside of me. And it just it got to the point where I couldn't stay still any longer. And I needed to make that move. And within three months, I woke up on July 9, and decided, I have this experience inside of me. And I really need to find a way to share these great things and tools that I had learned along the way with other women. And the women that I was coaching, they were appreciating my story and it seemed like they gathered strength from it. So I had no choice but to write this book.

Marcy Predmore  7:04  
I love it, you had no choice. I love it. I have been working on a book for three years, I'm going to remember that I have no choice.

Jennifer Crowley  7:15  
I had no choice. And one of the things that I discovered along the way is that I'm a perfectionist. And I suffered for a long time with perfectionism that that really, there were days when if I didn't have the right outfit, or if I didn't look, the way that I needed to it was it was almost debilitating. So to be that person and decide to write a book and put my story and myself out there in that way was frightening. So important that I made that step though, because I'm as open as a book, I'm just as open as a person can be. And it helps me relate on a deeper level with people.

Marcy Predmore  7:56  
Yes. And it truly does. And I just had my computer up and it just went off. But on your website, which is changeable coaching, comm somebody, everybody should go there. And just take a quick look, it's a beautiful website. But one of the inspirational quotes talks about when you tell your story, you really don't think you have a story to tell. But you do have a story to tell. Absolutely. It will only it will heal not only you, but it'll heal who's listening. True. And I just I just loved that quote. So that's going to be one of mine that I will take from your website. I

Jennifer Crowley  8:34  
just great. Tell us take it share it. Absolutely. Well,

Marcy Predmore  8:39  
we're going to get started today. And again, I have a couple questions that I just like to kick off with broad questions. But I know the audience will just really be intrigued to hear, Jennifer, what does success mean to you?

Jennifer Crowley  8:55  
It's a great question. That definition most definitely changed. The definition used to be that success was having all those things in the big job and and, you know, the money and the stress and all of those things that other people kind of imposed on me I was that role, that societal role that I was supposed to play as a woman who was born when I was and we had kind of moved from maybe just rearing the family to, you know, rearing the family and having a full time job and doing everything else and doing it well and looking good and smiling and you know, I that's what I thought success was and thankfully through this process Success to me is living your life, exactly who you are and feeling connected to the people around you, to your family, to your group of friends, to the people you even work with, in real ways, being very vulnerable and just being incredibly authentic. getting up every day and living your life like that, to me is the definition of success.

Marcy Predmore  10:04  
Absolutely love it. And authenticity is so important. Because if you're not you who are you? If you're not the real you, Who are you people need to know that. Yeah, I just love that. Thank you so much for just filling us in on just from the heart, what that meant to you. And again, success is a lot of times of failure. You know, it sounds like you've come through you were very successful in a wine industry complete opposite of what you're doing today. And you did grow there, you did really enjoy where you were, it sounded like, but you knew you were aware enough to know that it was time for a change, it was something was calling you to either help other people as you shared, or really grow yourself, as you shared also

Jennifer Crowley  10:57  

Marcy Predmore  10:59  
Yes, yes. Well, the next question, and again, a bit broad. But it's a question that I love to ask, because so many people get intrigued by the question, but also by the answers. What does wealth mean to you, Jennifer? As you ask that, I feel like

Jennifer Crowley  11:22  
the definition for me between success and wealth is not that dissimilar wealth. It doesn't have to do with money, I feel like you can have a wealth of spirit, a wealth of love, you can have all of those things. I think the bottom line is you can afford the things that you want in your life, and that you're not trying to cover for the fact that maybe you don't have enough time to spend with your family. So you overspend on, on things that you don't necessarily need or those types of things. But I really do feel like maybe it's just this point in my life, that those two are really connected success and wealth. Yes. Does that make sense?

Marcy Predmore  12:05  
It makes absolute sense. And the reason that it does to me also, is because so much of if we go into the traditional world, everyone, if you bring up the word wealth, its money, bring up the word success, it means somebody has done something amazing that they have really broken through that barrier. But success and wealth together are truly just a solid foundation to stand on. In green growth in your whether it be entrepreneurship, whether it be being an author, whatever that whatever it is that you're looking for wealth and success is the foundation of who you are, and how you're growing into the into whatever it is you are so yes, I agree. Great. Yes. So let's talk just a little bit about Ever wish you got hit by a truck. Let's talk about that. And again, how did that come about? And tell us just a little bit. I know, one of the questions that I just took a peek at earlier was you had to make some really big life changes, lane changes. And is that what precipitated the book?

Jennifer Crowley  13:25  
Absolutely, yes, I needed to make those changes. The title, people always ask, Where did this title come from. And that title is part of my story. And then again, goes back to me at the age of 35. driving into work, you know, stress, anxiety, small child, failing marriage, a lot of things that were kind of coming together at that appointment, and I remember daydreaming one day and imagining, like, maybe I'll just get hit by a truck on the way into work. And it was nothing catastrophic. It was more like, and if that happens, maybe I could take a few days off. Or maybe that would force me to rethink the way that I'm living right now. Because it really wasn't working for me at that point. But I felt stuck. And I felt like this was the path that I was supposed to be on. And that there were so many other women around me who looked like they were well put together. They were handling this with no problem. And I thought, What is my problem? Clearly, I can't hack this. And I use that word hack. It's because that is my word. I remember at very frustrating points in my life where I would say, I can't ask this What's wrong with me, but it is truly my story. So that is where it came from. And the book absolutely needed. It just needed to come out. And I wanted to reach out to women at that point where they felt desperate or they felt stuck or they felt alone and say, Hey, have you ever felt this way? And I've gotten such great positive response. Safa that people get it immediately. They understand exactly what I was trying to say there.

Marcy Predmore  15:05  
Yes, absolutely. And, and I think that's really and we're gonna keep it in the women realm right now it could pertain to anybody. But I think women so many times want to just relate, you know, you and I were talking before the show before we actually got started. And we both felt like we grew up being back here. Being a really kind of a nobody, really not successful, not the smartest kid in the class, not the prettiest, not the whatever it was, worked, or we didn't think we were, and so many women just really enjoy, I think the connectivity of Oh, wow, you felt that way too. And I just love that. And that's where ever wish she got hit by a truck. You know, a lot of us probably have had some of those thoughts as we drive in a car as we go for a run or a walk or whatever. If something were to happen to me. What How would that change my life? Right? Yeah. So I just I really enjoy that too. Because again, I think we're all looking for that connectivity, that we're all we we all want to be somebody and we are all extraordinary in our own way. But so many times we don't let that shine through. So thank you for letting that shine through.

Jennifer Crowley  16:31  
Yeah, absolutely. And that piece about connectivity is so important to me. And I want to go back and kind of highlight it. Because it was one of the biggest mistakes that I made on my personal journey was when all of these things started spinning out of control. And I could no longer kind of make it through my days. Instead of going to the people that loved me and supported me, I really had to shut myself down. Because again, everyone else had the ability to do it. And I was a perfectionist on top of it. So I've got imposter syndrome going and everything else. So it was just easier to stuff it down and not connect in that. That was the biggest mistake I made. And I start my book with that admitting that it's so incredibly important. And that was one of the benefits that I personally got out of writing this book, I have connected with women from all over the world. When I released my book, there was a woman from Egypt wondering how she could get my book, and it was just so thrilling to have that connection, I would have never had that. It was It has been fantastic.

Marcy Predmore  17:39  
You know, and and really, you sometimes don't even know why it is that you were propelled to write it. But it sounds like it was meant for not only you but for other women, and especially across the globe. That's pretty amazing. Agreed? Yes. And so let's talk just a little bit about in the life in the day of the life of you. What does that look like? Because it sounds like that you are constantly growing you I mean, if you're a life coach, and if you are bent in that direction, you're probably always growing you. But what does a day in the life of you look like?

Jennifer Crowley  18:18  
That's such a great question. And I will tell you that it has changed very rapidly over the past few weeks. Starting in on July 9 of 2020, a day in the life of me, really included getting up and spending as much of the morning as humanly possible writing, thinking, creating, walking, do you know writing notes and doing those things and then because that's when I'm most creative. And I know this and I also know that as a life coach, I must be more successful in the afternoon. Because that voice inside of me and who I am just tends to calm down a little bit. And instead of jumping in and trying to solve someone's problem I it's it's just a better flow. So that's how it actually looked for about a year, it was pretty frenetic. I was home with my son though, during the pandemic, which was fantastic. It was so incredibly important to me. But and it always started with either meditation or exercise of some sort, because that those things are so important. Meditation changed my life. I talk about it in the book. And it's one of the things it's one of my favorite chapters, because I love imagining a woman who has never meditated before, having the ability because of the way that I've broken it down to start meditating. And even if it's two or three minutes at a time, that that one practice is worth the price of admission to this book, if that's something you're interested in. So, you know, that is most definitely part of my days. And, you know, from there after the book was launched, there have been so many conversations and podcasts Send all these different things that have happened. And, you know, I've been very blessed to have been in entrepreneur and there are so many other great magazines and things like that. So I was just trying to keep up with that doing plenty of posting, really putting myself out there being very open. And I will tell you that within the past few weeks there, the leadership piece of who I am on a regular basis, kind of cropped up. And there was a family that reached out for me that had a company that they were going through huge changes. And so they have asked me to come into their company, and help them build a healthy foundation. So my life over the past year and a half is it's swung. It's so wildly different and incredibly exciting. And again, I'm so lucky to have had all of these experiences

Marcy Predmore  20:55  
you've had and what a blessing. And it all has just come to pass. And I think so many times, you know, they say that you have what seven different careers in a lifetime. And a lot of times people are afraid to move from one career to the other. Like you said, you had a bit of trepidation. I know I did. I had trepidation after being in a career for 20 some odd years, I thought I lost my identity. Yes, I really I gained my identity. I understand that. Yes. And I really resonated when you said that. Because I really feel like so many people, so many women are afraid to take that leap of faith, that quantum leap into what it is that that maybe isn't even put together yet. But sometimes you have to take the next step towards it. To agree and feel the growth of it.

Jennifer Crowley  21:53  

Marcy Predmore  21:55  
Let me just just kind of grab a hold of something you said. So is there a specific tool? Is there something specific about meditation? How does someone meditate?

Jennifer Crowley  22:09  
It's a great question. And I lay it out in my book and I'm I'm taking a deep breath and thinking of the best way to talk about that. Meditation. It's such a personal thing. It's not a one size fits all. It's not. Meditation is a practice. And so you have to be kind to yourself. Because ultimately, you're trying to kind of silence the the thoughts that come up in your mind, or I used to call it the random rubber ball of thoughts. And most of those thoughts were negative toward myself at that point in time, the best thing for someone to do to start out with and this is what I teach and how I learned to obviously find yourself the quietest space, you can use definitely. And sit, however you feel comfortable. If you want to lay down, that's fantastic. If you want to sit on the floor, if your body still bends in a way where you can do the lotus position where you cross your legs over kind of ankle to knee fantastic. Mine stopped doing it years ago. And that's fine. But I use a counting method so that when you first start, first you close your eyes, and you kind of go and you follow the sensation of your breath and you breathe in, and you feel that cool air rushing in. And then you breathe out and you feel that air rushing out. And then to get started, take a breath in, and a breath out. And then you count you breathe in, breathe out. And that's one. And you repeat that all the way up to 50. And I feel like you get to fool your mind into really concentrating on your breath and your numbers. As you're learning how to do this. Then when you get to 50, you change it up a little bit. And you start by counting one, and then you breathe in. And then you breathe out. And you do the same thing again until you get to 50 and then sit and kind of sit with yourself and maybe your two or three minutes in. But at that point, let your numbers go and let everything fade and go back to your breath in and then out. It's a starting point. There are so many other ways that you can meditate. I do mantra meditation, and I find that if I use a mantra or mantras, number three is very powerful for me. So I use it often. But as I'm going through things in life, I find that words and mantras come to me. So creativity, connection and completion. Were the three words that I used as I was meditating and writing the book. And that was just and it helped me block everything else out and I really concentrated on those words. And they helped To me in the process, that's a quickie. That's a really quick way to get someone started. There are other things that you can do that I talked about in that chapter.

Marcy Predmore  25:08  
Okay. That is fantastic. And I just think sometimes, you know, like you said, meditation is can be different for each person, and it's your own personal experience. But I think a lot of people get wrapped up in how do I, then? Or how do I create something different? If I want to make lane changes in my life? How do I go about doing that. And so I just really appreciate that, because I really feel like people just need to know the basics of meditation in the course, you can go out there and find it anywhere. But right here in this book would be a great way to get started on meditating and just listening to your own inner self.

Jennifer Crowley  25:56  
You need the ability to meditate and quiet your mind before you can activate your inner voice, which I talk about there. Yes, having the ability to hear and trust, my inner voice was what really brought me to where I'm at right now, we know instinctively, what is right in good for us, we have that ability inside of us. There are times when we don't trust ourselves. And that's when maybe we falter, we can't find the path. But that connection to the inner voice is again, led me on my path and is something that I talk to people about. And it's funny, because when I'm in business situations, I always tell them, I'm 50%, inner voice or gut feeling, and 50% by the numbers. And there are some people that kind of look back. And he said, you just need to listen to exactly what your body your inner voice is saying when you're in these situations when you're making these decisions. Yeah, I can remember sitting in on interviews, and there were people who came in where their resume looked fantastic. But something was not sitting right with me during the interview. And time and time again, people would walk out the door. And the managers that had asked me to come and sit in would look and they would say how do you feel? And I would say, Hmm, there's something that that's there that I can't really explain. And I will tell you nine times out of 10. If we did go ahead and hire that person, there was something that that none of us could ever see. Or imagine that just didn't make sense for our organization.

Marcy Predmore  27:33  
Yeah. You know, in one of my earlier podcasts, and actually today, we talk about that intuition that, that gut feeling. A lot of times you feel a positive or a negative energy. And and it's okay, it's not it's not right or wrong. But like you said, you would walk into a room full of an interview with an interviewee and you would know sometimes just by feeling your intuition just by feeling your inner voice sharing with you about that person, whether it is you know, good or bad. It might just not be a good fit, right? Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Well, you know, another thing that I truly love in my own life and just even reading your book, how did this book, did you have a particular mentor that actually pushed you to where you are today? To help you get to where you are today? What are your mentor? What are the mentors who are the mentors in your life? I have

Jennifer Crowley  28:40  
been blessed with so many different mentors in my life. I am an only child. So I do need to start with my parents. My parents are incredible human beings, very loving, very open, very giving. And they both are very connected to their inner voices. So so my ability to do that started when I was very young, and I am grateful to my parents for that. They would definitely be be some of my first mentors. There are people in the wine business most definitely I started in 2001 with a family owned and operated company. And I most definitely consider the other members of the owner and the other members of the executive team, my mentors, because they allowed me to be me. So they allowed me to bring that gut feeling in my femininity and my I've been a mother my entire life. I'm other people even before my son was born, it's just who I am. It's what I bring to the table. They encouraged that in me in what was a very male dominated industry. So I am grateful to them most definitely. And then as we move on down the road, I feel the there was an incredible woman and she was actually My marriage and divorce counselor. And she just she was a fantastic woman, she spoke very openly and plainly about what she saw in me and what she thought that I needed and encouraged me, at first maybe suggested that I would need an antidepressant because I was a mess, I have no problem, saying that I was a mess. And then I had this kind of reaction. And she again, she was incredibly spiritual and said, You know, I think I might want to try meditating first. She was so encouraging. She even back then, and that was years before I made the change. She told me whatever you want to do, you have the ability to do it. Because I again, I was stuck. And I thought, I could never, I could never go back to school, or I could never make a change so that I could help people and I wanted it even back then. And she said, you have the ability to do it, you can, you as soon as you make that decision, you will move forward in your life. So I most definitely consider her a mentor, she was so important to me.

Marcy Predmore  31:07  
That is amazing. And you know, there's so many mentors, whether they could, they might not even be alive today. But they could be a book it could be, it could be a quote, it could be something that intrigued you. Or it could have been someone who came alongside of you, who actually helped you through maybe some of your darkest days, and really encouraged you to move forward to several of my mentors. I look at them. And one of them is Bob Proctor. I just love listening to Bob Proctor. And I love listening about his life. And what encourages me in he as my mentor is He's been where I've been. But he's achieved what I want to achieve. And I think that's what's so exciting when somebody can actually come alongside of you, and really mentor you along to where it is you want to go instead of their agenda. So that's, that's pretty exciting that you have a mentor that actually moved you in that direction. Tell me about the book, did somebody mentor you in? In writing it? Or was that something you just put pen to paper.

Jennifer Crowley  32:25  
So I like to say that the book started as kind of a twisted, cathartic mess of the things that I had been through, it really did I journaling is incredibly important. And something that I speak about. And I feel like I just started writing on July 9 2020. And I had probably five chapters full of me and the things that I had been through. And it was fantastic to get it out there. Yes. But then I began to realize, okay, so my story is really only part of it. So let's Whittle this back and really kind of gear it towards the change and everything else that needed to be made. But I can't say that there was someone who said write a book or that it just kind of started pouring out of me. And then my inner voice was there to tell me, here's the structure, I can remember walking my dog One summer day, and I was kind of working through things and the structure came out. Now there's three pieces, you know, there's inspiration, there's preparation, and then there's your plan for change. And we're gonna, we're gonna start kind of heart centered and very open. And then we're going to get really practical and say, you've got these feelings, you know, where you want to go, you know, what you've been through? And then what are the steps that you need to take in order to make changes? And I really, I have to credit my inner voice I do. I just said, Okay, what does this need to look like? And it was born from there.

Marcy Predmore  33:58  
I absolutely love it. And again, you had to listen to that inner voice to really be mentored by you, in a sense. Yeah, that is so exciting. And it encourages me and encourages me to move forward with when you do have something that nudges you along. But that really speaks to you. Definitely take the next step. Don't take the risk,

Jennifer Crowley  34:25  
take the risk. And don't stop and write everyday if you can. And I know our lives are not I happen to start writing in this really interesting space where the world was shut down. And I was lucky to have started and to have completed it. And yes, I tell everyone that I talk to if you feel like you've got that story inside of you, you need to get it out. Just like you said in the beginning. Not only is it great for you, but someone else needs to hear it and they will be inspired.

Marcy Predmore  34:55  
Absolutely. And I know when I very first started to public Speak, I didn't again, I didn't think my story was worth hearing I didn't I, it just it just didn't resonate to where I felt like it was worth speaking. But the more I was courageous enough to step up on a stage or just behind a microphone, or whatever that place was that I got to speak. It was so exciting for me the growth that took place right here. Absolutely. And so many people, women, especially would come up to me and say, with tears, thank you for sharing your story. And you know, sometimes you just don't realize, again, it's not only healing you, but if it just heals one person, if one person, your voice to their ears makes a difference. That is all the difference that needed to be made. Absolutely, yeah. So I do love that. And you know, I was going through just a few other things, but from your own experience of coaching, what are some of the challenges that women are facing when it does come to shifting lanes?

Jennifer Crowley  36:14  
Number one would be the whatever society, whatever the people around them, whatever, sometimes it's your parents, sometimes it's your mate, sometimes it's the people that are around you at work. It's so hard to break out of that place that that you're in where you feel like well, no, everyone thinks that I'm supposed to be here. That to me is one of the it's one of the biggest challenges to help a woman overcome most definitely, yes, the other two challenges we've we've kind of talked about a little bit in the end, the first one is get vulnerable and tell people what you need, that's a first step, and then graciously accept their help. That's the second step. Both of those things, very difficult, very difficult for a lot of women to do most definitely. And then the third part is the lack of confidence, or imposter syndrome. So many women that I work with suffer from imposter syndrome. There's something in there, that that is woven so tightly around shame, and around how it manifests itself. And again, mine is perfectionism. It's been that way for such an incredibly long time. And I cried when I read my first book about perfectionism most definitely are about imposter syndrome, because I had suffered for so long. And I thought I, there's no one else that feels this way. There's no one else that does, yes, 70%, approximately, of the population feels that way, in one way or in one time or another where they're fake. They're an imposter. And someone's going to find them out. Right that that those are the three big hurdles that I see on a regular basis, as I'm working with women.

Marcy Predmore  38:07  
I absolutely love it. And I love the word grace. I think so many people need to give themselves the Grace To You don't have to do anything that the world thinks you should do or supposed to do. So give yourself grace, to make mistakes, to make success to create whatever it is that you want to create. But give yourself the grace to move through that. And again, you're you said the words supposed to so many of us in the entrepreneurial world, I was also in a male dominant industry. And everybody told me I was supposed to look this way. Talk these words, move this way, sell this way. Right. You know what? I knew from the moment that I was in the industry that I that I was going to fight that. But so many people realize that you don't have to stay in suppose to mode.

Jennifer Crowley  39:19  
Sometimes it takes a while sometimes it sometimes you you are in the middle of your 40s. And you realize yes isn't how it doesn't need to be this way and it's time to make a change.

Marcy Predmore  39:30  
Yes. And you know, timing i The one thing that I did read a few places is you're never too old. To change lanes. You're never too old. To grow, you make a difference to really, really hone who you are. And I think a lot of women get lost in that too is we get lost in either. You know being a mom or being Daughters of amazing parents. or, again, you might have staff, whatever that is, you really can feel like, timing is off for you. It just doesn't happen.

Jennifer Crowley  40:10  
I really wanted to reach out specifically to women 40. And over it was, I just felt like, I could not be the only one having this experience at this age and those feelings. And so as I wrote, and as I wrote my notes about who am I really talking to? That's exactly who I was talking to. Talking to those people who you're right, they may feel so stuck in all of the different roles that they need to play in their lives, but it's never too late. And that is, that is such a fantastic truth. And I tell, again, the women that I'm working with, and the people around me, it's do it, you want to try and do this thing. And society says you're too old.

Marcy Predmore  40:55  
It's Yes,

Jennifer Crowley  40:56  
you need to give it a go.

Marcy Predmore  40:58  
You bet. You bet. You know, and as we get close to wrapping up here, I always like to end with a tip of the week. And I think that's probably one of the biggest tips that I've just heard from you is, it's never too late. It's okay to wake up every morning no matter what your age, and say, today is my day, today is the gift for me to do whatever it is that I want to do to grow me. And so the tip of the week for me would absolutely be don't be stagnant. No matter your age. Every single

Jennifer Crowley  41:35  
day is a brand new opportunity to make a difference if that's what you need to do, or make a change, or be good to yourself or learn how to meditate or get connected with your inner voice their every single morning. It's a new day and a new opportunity.

Marcy Predmore  41:52  
Absolutely. Well Jennifer, I have so enjoyed having you today and just your authentic, natural self sharing the journey from a successful career to making a shift. You know, a lot of us thought COVID was and is it pushes in a little bit of negativity negative energy, but it created so much opportunity.

Jennifer Crowley  42:19  
It could end it thank you so much. Yeah, it was fantastic to talk to you today.

Marcy Predmore  42:25  
Yes, I so appreciate it. And I just really one more time I just want the audience to no Ever wish you got hit by a truck. You really should get the book and go to changeable coaching calm and get have a chat with Jennifer and just see if there's anything that could propel you into your next step your next awareness of your journey. Well, thank you, everyone, and I hope you all stay extraordinary this week.

Janay Harris  42:59  
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