Ordinary Women, Extraordinary Wealth

Ep. 39 - What Does Success Mean to You?

December 31, 2021 Marcy Predmore-McPhee Season 1 Episode 39
Ordinary Women, Extraordinary Wealth
Ep. 39 - What Does Success Mean to You?
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Thanks for tuning in to this special episode of Ordinary Women Extraordinary Wealth! 

As we wrap up our first year of producing this podcast, we wanted to take a look back and listen to various answers to one of our favorite questions. Let’s take a listen to hear from our guests in the year 2021 and compare the many definitions of what success means to them.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of our listeners, and we’ll see you in the new year!

Janay Harris  0:01  
Thanks for tuning in to this special episode of ordinary women extraordinary wealth. As we wrap up our first year of producing this podcast, we wanted to take a look back and listen to the various answers of one of our favorite questions. Let's take a listen to hear from our guests in the year 2021. And compare the many definitions of what success means to them. Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year to all of our listeners. And we'll see you in the new year.

Marcy Predmore  0:29  
Miss Jessica, we are going to start with the very first question. It might seem broad, but it's truly something that we all focus on. And what does success mean to you?

Jessica Buttry  0:44  
I love this question, Marcy, thank you for asking it. So I always like to go back to to Earl Nightingale the strangest secret in the world. Right? Yeah. And he defined success as the progressive realisation of a worthy ideal. And then one of our other mentors. Um, he's a dear friend, chiropractor, Dr. John Demartini. He defines success as balanced in all seven areas of life. So what are the seven areas right, everybody to know, what are the seven areas so we're talking spiritual, mental, physical, vocational, financial, familial, and social. So I truly believe that to be successful in today's world in it, it's different for everybody, it looks different for everybody. But it's having balance in all areas of life. Because if we look at some of the quote unquote, people who we would consider successful, maybe like Steve Jobs, I don't know if I would consider him a true success. Because yes, he had a lot of money. But as he said, you can't pay someone to take your place in the hospital beds. So he was lacking in that health or that physical side of life. And so I truly believe that in order to be a success, that we need balance in all seven areas of life.

Marcy Predmore  1:59  
Absolutely. And, you know, I really think that is something, okay, we are all starting a new year together. And Jessica and Brandon really are passionate about that balance. When it comes to health, they really, that's just something it's been a God given gift to both of them. And so I love the balance that they bring, I mean, we've gotten to know each other quite well, and, and they shine that message. So again, I just think that balance, Jessica is super way to bring and mold into the word success. Because if we don't have our health, what do we have truly,

Jessica Buttry  2:42  
and then if you don't have your finances in order, yes, a lot of stress that will then affect your health. And then if we don't have that familial aspect, I think a big part of, of being a success is you want to you want to leave something to your family, or leave something that people can remember you by I think that's one of the biggest needs as a human is, is we want to be remembered whenever we gone and so or we want to be remembered whenever we're not here anymore. So what can we leave to the next generation or to the world that they'll remember us by. And it's not easy, everybody, when when I say balance in all areas, it is a constant, like I am working constantly to make sure that I am maintaining balance in all areas. And I can tell when I am focusing on some areas more than others, I'll get anxiety or, you know, things just don't seem like they're going the way that I want them to. And so then I have to kind of sit back and reflect and say, okay, yes, the business is going great. Our business is thriving, but because I've been so busy, I haven't made it to the gym. And so now my health like I'm bottling up that anxiety and not releasing it. And so then that's affecting me physically. And then if that's affecting me physically, how is that portraying over to my family? Am I able to be there for my family at 100%? So it's definitely not easy. And it's something that, you know, I don't feel like I'm ever going to arrive. It's something that I'm constantly learning and constantly growing each and every day. So my very first question,

Marcy Predmore  4:07  
it's kind of a big question, but what is success? To you?

Melissa Posey  4:14  
Success to me, it's freedom. That is always been. I mean, it's my favorite one of my favorite words. Last year, it was actually my word of the year. I've been creating it for several years. It's being able to really have do and be what I want when I want. Yes, like freedom. To me. It's all about freedom. Because I lived. I mean, years ago. I feel almost like I wasn't free. Yeah. And that was just the place that I was in at that time. Yeah. But over the past years, I realized that was something that was really important to me. So Success to me is freedom. Yes, and It's also one of my favorite quotes. Success is faith in action. It was so success to me, you know, faith, touching on what you just said about getting into the how I didn't know the how, but yet I was led by faith. And it's just taking those steps like the, the intuitiveness that I've developed. Take the next step. And then you know, we'll see further from that. And it's always taking the action. That's why I love that quote is because we can't just sit at home on our couch and hope that, you know, visualizing is going to bring us everything that we want, we actually have to be taking the steps every day. So to me, success is also it's faith with that inspired action, but it's really freedom

Unknown Speaker  5:54  
to me, yes, that freedom,

Marcy Predmore  5:55  
what does success mean to you?

Peymaneh Rothstein  6:01  
I love this question, because I get asked that quite a bit. And I get acknowledged for being so successful. And so actually looked on what it means in the dictionary. So the dictionary is the accomplishment of an aim or purpose. Okay, so this brings me to without even looking up at the dictionary, the first thing that came to my mind was, you know, at different stage of my life, I had different purposes, different goals. And every time I achieved them, I felt success, like the actual feeling of success. So depending on where you're at your life, depending on your age, would like when I was a single person to becoming a mother and a CEO with 50 employees, my aims and purposes in life changed. And I had different reasons to create goals, and then achieving those gave me a great sense of success. I know sometimes people say success can be happiness or joy. But if you're looking at a tangible, tangible, tangible, anything, yes, I would then say setting goals, and achieving them is just the meaning of success. And for me, in my life, I would say, going above and beyond setting goals would really be a true success. If if I was to measure success for me, for example, give you an example. If I may be great. So, you know, I support unstoppable foundation. Yes, it's like you. That's our financial paperwork. Yes. And my I was moved to tears when my nine year old daughter said, Mommy, I'm going to get $150 of my money to unstoppable foundation.

Marcy Predmore  8:03  
That is amazing. Amazing.

Peymaneh Rothstein  8:07  
Yeah. So for me, that's like, that is a true success when it was something above and beyond a goal I had set for myself. And now it's like going into the community, and it's impacting people around me,

Marcy Predmore  8:21  
what does success mean to you?

Stephanie Kirkland  8:25  
You know, and a lot of people, Marcia mean, when they think of success, they think of having money. And you know, I've had to learn along the way that because I had no money, I had to learn to become successful in other areas of my life. And I really think that success to me, is more identified as having a happy life. My friendships being spiritually sound, you know, and again, the way I look at it is success is really measured on how much you give, and not how much you receive. And I 100% believe that my success is driven by what I have given over the years, and it's made me become successful, because of what I give. And I and I believe, too, that you do need to hit rock bottom, you know, in order to really be able to start and when when a person hits the bottom and you think that you're in their darkest, deepest hole, and you start working and you dig yourself out of it. I think that to become to see the reality and become successful after that happens is when you really know that you're successful. When you truly have nothing and you don't know how you're going to fill up the gas tank. I mean, let alone make the mortgage payment. But you know, I mean, when you literally have nothing in the success to be able to know and give yourself the drive to do that. To me that's that means, again that I'm successful. It's not because I had no money and I still felt successful. When I was able to fill the gas tank, and you know, feed my kids and be able to take them to a movie without having anything, so it wasn't money driven, it was more of how can I, again, make a happy life? And, and for myself and my kids from your heart,

Marcy Predmore  10:18  
just share with us? What does success mean to you?

Tommy Collier  10:23  
Well, I've heard several definitions of success over the years. I didn't really think that much about success. Before I met Bob, and then when I met Bob, I kind of adopted his definition of success, which was actually Earl Nightingale, his definition of success, which is success is the progressive realisation of a worthy ideal. And I really, really liked that. And I would say, That's my kind of foundational definition of success. However, just this week, I was watching an amazing interview on YouTube with Lewis Howes, he interviewed a bunch of billionaires, and he was interviewing Paul Mitchell, you know, the hair product guy. Yeah, he gave me the best definition of success. Well, maybe not the best. But my new kind of favorite definition that I'm gonna roll with for this year, and it is success is how well you do what you do when nobody else is looking. And you keep on doing it.

Marcy Predmore  11:20  
That is, isn't that the truth? Yeah. And success is always evolving. You just said it, you had this one success phrase that you love. But as you continue to grow, there's others that just speak to you. And I totally agree with that.

Tommy Collier  11:36  
Yeah, I love it. Because it ties right in with the the law of compensation that Bob teaches about, which is that there's only there's three parts to your ability or your the need for what you do your ability to do it. And the difficulty there isn't replacing, you know, the only one you have to focus on is your ability to do it, how well you do what you do. And I have really honestly built my career my whole life on a foundation of becoming extremely good at what I do in the areas that I'm which I've, I've done in many areas. So that's that really resonated with my heart. Success is how well you do what you do when nobody else is looking. And, and keeping on doing it.

Marcy Predmore  12:17  
JT, what is success to you?

Jason Taylor  12:22  
This is a question that I've asked asked myself many, many times. And the answer I've come up with, is not only a combination of what I've learned, but of truly what success is. To me, right. And this is, this is what I've found in success is a comfort in knowing that you are on the right path, that you are headed in the direction that makes you feel good. And gives you wins along the way. One of the things I teach when I when I first start with a new team, and a lot of times, if I digress a little bit, a lot of times when I'm working with kids, it's a team that has not performed well in the past. And the different leagues will say JT, can you come in and coach this group, they're not having the success that they need, and we don't have a coach for them. So I'll come in, and I'll coach that group for a very short time, with the end goal that they all make the majors in their division or whatever it is that they're going for. Yes. And it works every time. And people in in what I've found is that it's in teaching them to see success differently, that allows them to move forward. Because if I go to a young athlete who has just been devastated by the fact that they didn't make, but certain team that they thought for sure they would make Yeah, um, and if I say this is this is the way I define success is that you make that team right? Well, then they're they're doing, they're doomed from the start. But if I say let's redefine success in the progressive realisation of a worthwhile ideal, right, you've heard that before? Absolutely. If we redefine success as a conversation, a making one good throw, as showing up to practice as doing all these things that have to be done to get you to eventually that end goal, then every day is a success in that success breeds more success. Yes. And before you know it, you look back and you don't recognize yourself.

Marcy Predmore  14:44  
What does success mean to you?

Dr. Shani Fox  14:49  
Me success is when I'm able to

contribute something to the world that represents the gifts that I was given. You know, we each of us has given some very unique gifts.

Marcy Predmore  15:04  
What does success mean to you?

Troy Byer  15:09  
Success means to me is not having to survive a situation but to thrive in it. Love it.

Marcy Predmore  15:16  
Love that. And you know what, and to thrive in it, not just, again, not just live day to day, but just to really thrive in the gift of the day. I love that.

Troy Byer  15:28  
Yeah, has nothing to do with money. You know, I mean, that's a different kind of success. But yes, I'm not when I'm not surviving parent ship, you know, parenthood. I'm not surviving a relationship with someone, I'm not surviving my own health.

Marcy Predmore  15:43  
What does success mean to you?

Lauren Abrams  15:48  
Well, success means feeling balanced, spiritually connected. Balance? Yes. I think I'll just find it synonymous with balance.

Marcy Predmore  16:01  
What does success mean to you? With everything that you just shared?

Rebecca King Crews  16:09  
I will tell you that that definition for me has changed with each season of my life. When I got married, I would have told you I don't care if I ever become a star, or you know, get a watch star on the Walk of Fame or win a Grammy. I want to still be married to Terry Crews when I'm 95. That's awesome. And that, and that was really true. I mean, I literally did kind of lay all my dreams aside. Um, first of all, when I had my daughter, Naomi. And then secondly, when I took it on myself to become the wife of this very excited, ambitious, young footballer, hopeful, you know? Yeah, um, but I can tell you that that was a decision that was brought with a lot of prayer, and a lot of seeking. And I didn't make that decision. For any other reason than I felt it was my purpose. Yeah, it was the thing I asked God for right in my face, saying, Here I am, come and go with me. And the funny thing about that is it looked like the opposite direction of where I was trying to go, right. I was trying to go to New York. And this boy was taking me to California. And on this housewife, you know, life and this whole, you know, because the transient nature of his career, yes. dictated that I needed to just make sure those kids were good. You know what I mean? I mean, we moved 13 times, wow, in the NFL. And so I just was Mommy and I loved it. I really, there was nothing else competing in my heart at the time. It just, that's all I wanted to be was the best mom I could be. And if asked me, then what is success is turning out decent human beings who love God and love their neighbor. Yeah. And, you know, fulfill who they're meant to be in the planet.

Marcy Predmore  18:21  
Wow. Love that. Yeah.

Rebecca King Crews  18:24  
And, and, and as I have, you know, gone through the process of becoming a mother. And then watching them make mistakes, watching them, lose battles, watching them, get their hearts broken, you know, I changed that model to my vision of success is teaching them how to handle life. You know, that they can life. And now that we're dealing with adult children, my vision of success is mommy's trying to get her business off the ground. And it's false, my children because I still want to see them happy and successful. Ie that. Why? To see that as my burden, it's their burden. Now.

Marcy Predmore  19:19  
My first question is,

what does success mean to you?

Suzanna DeMallie  19:25  
You know, I, to me, I would break it down into three categories, you know, success as a mom, that would be my highest priority. And that that would be that I have been able to, you know, raise my children to be happy and independent and responsible people, and hopefully that they can add something, some value to society. And then there's professional success, which for me, has changed so much throughout my life because you know, I was a CPA and then a teacher now nonprofit director and then a teacher, and now I'm an author. So, you know, depending on what I am doing at the time, there's success in that. Right? Currently, it's just getting my message out, you know that people can change something, particularly education system. And then there's personal success, which I probably a lot of women put last in their life. And that's what I would. And I would say, I'm still working towards that, I think I'm just getting to that stage in my life now, where that's becoming a little bit more of a focus. You know, my, because my kids are older now. And I'm more established in life. So I'm just, you know, that's just finding enjoyment and what makes me happy. And probably, like I said, a lot of women, but that last, and I think, you know, like, success is always a work in progress. You know, you never get to a point where you're like, I'm successful now, you know, as you because your life is constantly changing and shifting directions. And, yes, you know, so it's, it's a work in progress.

Marcy Predmore  21:00  
paly, what does success mean to you?

Polly Hohn  21:04  
Well, I look at success as an every day thing. Like, if you look at the success and thinking results, it's a progressive realisation of a worthy ideal. And an ideal is an idea that you've fallen in love with. So my ideal is to help as many people as I can uncover their gifts, because I believe we all come on to this planet, with a gift of I was on a call today, and we are one in a 14 billion idea or projection or realization of ourselves, and you think that is unique, I, every single one of us has something to contribute, and to bring people out of conformity. Because we sort of come into the world in a box. And if we can open that box up and open our gifts, like that is one of those chapters in this book, in you squared, open your gifts, if you can open up what's inside you and let that free. Oh, my goodness, that's, that's what I love to do is, is just let people help them grow. So that then they're brave enough to go, this is me.

Marcy Predmore  22:12  
Yes. What is success to you?

Sue Thompson  22:19  
Success to me, kind of goes right along with my definition of abundance, which is, you know, we all get to define that for ourselves, right? But really being able to do the things that that you are I that I want to do what I want to do them with who whomever I want to do them with, and not worry about the cost of those things. But to do them because they're on my heart to do. Now, sometimes I have to save to do those things. And that's okay. But it's, it's I think that the gift for each of us is the desires that we have. So I desire to live in a certain kind of house, and I desire to travel the world, and I desired to build my own business. And those are gifts for me. And now it's my privilege if you helped to learn how to step into that, and fulfill it. And so being able to do that, which is what I want to do that success to me,

Marcy Predmore  23:19  
what does success mean to you?

Liesl Hays  23:24  
I thought about this long and hard, because I think that we all have you know, you say this, Marcy, we all have different versions of success, right? We all, we all define it differently. And for me at this current iteration of who I am right now, Success to me is all about me being able to show up for people in a way that is energizing for them. It's energizing for me. And I feel like a big part of that is me creating balance in my life. But that is success for me is me showing up and being able to be the best person I can in that moment for whoever I'm with and whoever I'm engaging with, I'm going to I'm going to talk to your audience a little bit about it too, because I think it's important. So I think, you know, so often, we really adhere to traditional versions of success. And when I say traditional versions of success, here's what I mean. When we layer on what we believe success to be from either how the world defines it, how our parents define it, how people outside of ourselves, define it. Sometimes we start to wear these versions of success and happiness and prosperity that actually don't belong to us at all. We are right, we're all uniquely made. We're all uniquely wired. And it's important that we really dig deep and get in tune with ourselves and figure out what does success look like for Liezl because success is going to look different for Liezl than it is for Marcy, than it is for Jill than it is for all of us. And we have to really define that for ourselves. And I think that was the critical part of my journey. My breaking point was that I had defined my life based on for so long what other people wanted for me and not necessarily what I wanted for myself.

Marcy Predmore  25:25  
But I really want to hear from the heart. What does

success mean to you?

Chris Williams  25:33  
So, that was an interesting question, because it is so broad, right? There's so many pieces of it, um, what I drilled it down, up, but what I drilled it down to was my values, right? Love faith and family. And people say, How do you take love faith and family and incorporate it in your national consulting company. And here's how I look at it. So everything is love, that's pretty easy to figure out, treat everyone as they would, as I would like to be treated, etc. And faith is kind of an interesting one, because people say, Well, that's a that's a big statement, you know, if it's all about your Christian faith, or your Jewish faith, or whatever that faith is, but I actually look at faith a little differently. Faith is trust and faith in what's happening, trust and faith that I'm supposed to meet you trust in faith that it happens the way it happens, because it's supposed to. So that whole realm of trust and faith. And then family is, you know, I have my biological family I have, I have five adopted kids, and so their family. And then I have my team of 13 consultants who work across the country. And then we have all of our customers, and then we have everybody else. So love, faith and family fits in perfectly to everything I do. So I really look at it as when I'm feeling the most successful is when my values are matching what I'm doing. And, you know, why don't we business came about because one year my, I don't know how old he was at the time was my third daughter, and she came in and she goes, Mom, can you put me to bed and it was like six or seven o'clock and I was on the phone, I go, honey, I can't put you to bed right now. You know, I'm on the phone with the customer, etc. And she walked out of the room are a little salty self. And right. In that moment, I realized that where was my priorities in the wrong place? So I restructured my life. I, Martha and I really believe we created a lifestyle business. Because we wanted to be with our families. And we I want in I have five adopted kids, I did not want somebody else raising them. People kept saying just get a nanny. And I'm like, what? So I worked while they were in school, and when they were off school I was off. And so that love fades and family, it really is the success of everything I do. What does success

Marcy Predmore  28:11  
mean to you?

Victoria Gallagher  28:14  
Yeah, this is such a great question. And I've I've, I've had multiple answers come to me throughout the day about how I really define success. And you know, at the most fundamental basic level, I believe success is just simply setting, you know, setting out to do something, and and completing that. I mean, like at the most fundamental level, that is what it is it's accomplishing something, you can have success at making a cup of coffee. Because you know, the, at the end of the, at the end of that activity, you have succeeded at doing that. And so I feel like just at the most basic levels, just you can have success in multiple different events, multiple different activities, multiple different areas of your life, you can have success in your your business, but maybe not have success in your health. And so for me, there's having success and then there's being successful. And I feel like being successful is when you have all of those areas in your life operating in the way that you envision for yourself. And in a way that makes you feel happy, makes you feel whole makes you feel complete, makes you feel that you you deserve the things that you have, you know, you could be walking in a life and feel like you don't necessarily deserve that. And so I feel like it is you know, when your deserve ability matches what you have what you know, you can feel like you deserve more, and you don't have that and so, again, you You're what you have in your life You're surrounded with, you feel that you deserve that. And, and, you know, there's always it's not that you're complete with where you're going in your life, there's always that five pounds, or there's always the, you know, the the next level, you know, if you've become a millionaire, and now you're on the road to becoming a billionaire or multi millionaire, or whatever it is, you know, the it's not just about money, it's relationships, its health, its happiness, its well being, you know, and it's just, it's living life on your terms and nobody else's. So that's what success means to me. Yeah. And you have to be willing to fail in order to be successful, you have to be willing to fail over and over and over again. And, you know, and just embrace that and real and kind of get excited when you fail. You know, it's almost like you just, it's a numbers game. I mean, back when I was dialing for dollars, it's like, how many people did I have to speak to? Before I got to Yes, I had to hear so many Nose, nose, nose, these tiny little failures, and you got to become scribble in that failure and realize, like, okay, that's just one step closer to where I'm going. So you have to, I love that you've brought that up, because you have to embrace those those failures. It's all part of the process. If Thomas Edison didn't embrace failure, you know, I don't know what we'd be doing here for for life. Maybe somebody else would have come up with it. Who knows. But he had that idea. And he had to fail 10,000 times to finally have success. And yeah, yeah, there's just so many examples of, of failure out there that you can that you can look at that ultimately do lead to success.

Marcy Predmore  31:55  
What does success mean to you? I think you are, you're describing right now. It's not an overnight success. But you're describing your success. And what it really meant to you were really resonated with you. Yeah. Yeah,

Deborah Driggs  32:12  
success is a really interesting question. Because if you would have asked me that question, 10 years ago, it would have been monetary, it would have been about what I could get, get get get, it would have been about achieving, to get something to make more money, it would have been a monetary answer. And today, it's completely the opposite. You know, success for me is so simple. It's waking up every day, saying, Thank you,

Marcy Predmore  32:47  
I love it.

Deborah Driggs  32:49  
Thank you, I get one more day, in this beautiful environment in this beautiful city that I live in, in this on this beautiful planet, I get to experience one more day. And you know, I keep it really simple like that, I I really am truly grateful.

Unknown Speaker  33:08  

Deborah Driggs  33:10  
I don't think I know really, actually, I know that if, if, if I'm not in gratitude, if I don't start the day off, finding something in my environment, or in my space that I'm completely grateful for. The day is gonna go south. Absolutely. And I just said that success for me is waking up and being in gratitude. And knowing that no matter what happens throughout my day, and things happen, let me tell you, we all know, to know that I now have a really big box of tools, where 10 years ago, I did not have that box, what does success

Marcy Predmore  33:50  
mean to each of you?

Daniel Martinez  33:54  
I will take this one first. I feel like success. And I didn't I realized this literally this week, I feel like success is having the ability to infect other people to do better. So I was I had I had another mastermind call yesterday, right? I said this on the call was that our first user to have his first six figure month, I'm like, that's just the first like, we're gonna have possibly hundreds or 1000s of those. And next he's gonna hit a million. And I'm like, That's success even if it's not my success. That's success. Other people seeing other people win and win in their own right profit off of their own efforts off of maybe assisting them in whatever way and knowledge information you provided for them to win. If they win, I feel like that's success.

Marcy Predmore  34:52  
I gotta say, Daniel, that that touches me because that's it i i Just so believe that. Again, like I stated in The beginning, the more we help other people. That's the excitement for me. And the success is it doesn't it doesn't have to be monetary. It just is seeing someone else achieve a goal or a dream is Wow, amazing. So anyway, Anthony?

Anthony Gaona  35:18  
Yeah, I think my answer sounds a lot like the first one. I think if a person is successful, not only have they designed a well designed Master Plan life for themselves, but they get to experience that and share that with others. So I'll tell you just right now, on a more micro level, right, because my plans are global. So I don't know if we can go into it on this show. Maybe another show here. But like, I've managed to have my wife quit her job, my sister quit her job. And I promised my mom this was her last year to work. So it's like when when you start to see all the people around me starting to have their time freedom as well. It's like whatever I created as a spreading and of course, we want to spread it now globally. And so that's what I felt like success is where you can, like I said, create a well designed life and then also share that with others. Because if you're the only man at the top of the mountain, and you feel like you totally made it like Who did you bring with you? That's I think that's a man's true measure of success.

Kenny Harless  36:08  
Yeah, never heard the crabs in the box metaphor. You know, I think I have that share. Okay, so I love metaphors because metaphors are the portal waiters subconscious mind is like Christ always use metaphors. Right. And so they're these Dungeness crabs that are huge are like this big. And what happens and this is really funny. I had read this book. Robert Kiyosaki Rich Dad, Poor Dad, right when I wrote my clinic, right, because I had no business experience. I just went all in. And I remember reading I think it was Sue Lecter was the accountant who, right I don't remember her first name. Sure. electramate. Yeah, it was.

Marcy Predmore  36:42  
Yes. Anyway, go ahead. I'll think about it too.

Kenny Harless  36:44  
libido is so it was really cool, though. So what happened? Sharon? Sharon, thank you. Yes, you're right. And but what happened, they would catch these Dungeness crabs. And they would have to do two things. They would check the sacks. Okay, to make sure they weren't disrupting the hanky panky. Right, you would also put them in pairs in the buckets. Now, the interesting thing is the bucket wasn't very deep. It was like the steep. Right. And they didn't cover it. And they would hang it off the edge of the boat or the dock. Yeah. And as soon as one of the crabs will go to expand, to express more to see, seek other opportunity to where he could go into the ocean where abundance was available to all right. Yes, the other crab would pull it back in again. And I thought how many times his family or friends? Yes. hold us back in? Yes. Right. Yes. And that's why I distanced myself. Yes. And I went away, because I knew enough to know that the people around me they love it's not that they don't love us, right, scared, and they've taken a risk and they didn't Well, that's all life is, is risk. We're Natural Born risk takers, as Bob says, you learn to walk and then what's the next thing minutes jog? And then it's climates? And what are you having the most fun in life? Yeah, it's when you're doing what? Setting goals, right? And you freakin doing something new, whether it's going to school or buying that house or that car that whatever it is, right like that. It's not the gaining it's the gaining the understanding is King Solomon, the Bible said, right? It's not the goal.

Marcy Predmore  38:13  
Second question, what does success mean to you?

Jewel Tankard  38:19  
I'm sorry, success is allowing your potential to be challenged, allowing yourself to evolve and to change, you know, because we've all seen, you know, the, the corner store where, you know, the grandma and grandpa opened it, you know, 20 years ago. And now it's close. Because they didn't change. They didn't pivot. They didn't shift. They didn't keep learning. They didn't keep asking questions. So I really think success is about the habits that we have every day. It's not just an event. It's not just a car. It's not just a mansion or a penthouse. Those are nice. I like that. I have that. But it's also making sure that my daily habits are in line with my bigger goals so that I can not just change my life, literally, how many lives of people can I change this year and last couple years, Jewel tenure Foundation has given away cars, we're going to do it again this year. So how many people's lives can you impact? You know,

Marcy Predmore  39:14  
what does success mean to you?

Joseph Okaly  39:18  
So I would say success is something that really changes how you define it over time, at least for me, that's been true. I don't know if that's the same for you, Marcy. And you know, when I was younger success, the definition of it was much more dictated to me. So it was getting good grades is success. Going to a good college is success, getting a good job to success? making lots of money getting a family and when I remember being up in the middle of the night with my my infant daughter in the rocking chair, trying to get her to go back to sleep, and just thinking about okay, well, when she's this age, we can do this, and so on and so forth. And before I knew she was graduating college, 20 years later, I had to just stop myself and say you You're looking for all these future things focus on today focus on the present. So Success to me is very, very tied to happiness now, and if you're very mindful and present in every day about being happy, and being impactful in a way that makes you happy, and I could do that today, I can do that tomorrow, I could do that the day after that, do it every day, this week, I would say that's a really successful week, really successful month, really successful life. And just breaking it down that way is really where I am today on how I would relate to success.

Marcy Predmore  40:32  
What does success truly mean to you?

Jen Coffel  40:37  
Success means to me to live an admired life that ties to what we just said. And that to me and admire life is one where you can be as generous as you want with your time, your money and your resources. And for me, they both mean, you know, they're like, so energy interconnected. I was very blessed to my dad, one of the best lessons I think, that I got from my father, and his life was his spirit of generosity. And he always in he had an entrepreneurial spirit, he worked in the Chicago Transit Authority, and like fixing buses for 20, some years, and he retired really young, like in his early 40s. And he started a limousine business. And so I got to watch and build like a really successful fleet and that business for 37 years, and he did a great job with it. But the thing that I learned from him was, you know, this idea of just whenever he was a group of people, or with me or anyone, that for that matter, friend, who was the first person put his hand in his pocket, it wasn't like a hesitation. Now, usually, we're going to pay for lunch or something that he was just always so free. Yeah. And he didn't have this emotional attachment to money. Like, I got to watch him be generous. It wasn't like acts of generosity, just was generous. And it came from that spirit. And so I got to witness that and watch him not have this like, really like, negative emotional connection to money. He was always like, money is just a tool, and you just use it to buy things, do things help people, it was just like, really impressed on me that way. And I'm really grateful for that. I think that's probably one of the best gifts that my dad gave me. And so money like for me, like I actually think of money, like his love, like in the sense that it's a tool that you can extend love, you can extend impact, you can extend opportunity choices, is really a tool. And and so is a different thing that I think I got that I'm really grateful for. And I think that's kind of been intertwined into my belief system, and how I think in them, therefore changes how we act when we feel and think certainly, Jennifer, what

Marcy Predmore  42:51  
does success

mean to you?

Jennifer Crowley  42:55  
So great question. That definition, most definitely changed. The definition used to be that success was having all those things in the big job and, and, you know, the money and the stress and all of those things that other people kind of imposed on me, I was that role, that societal role that I was supposed to play as a woman who was born when I was, and we had kind of moved from maybe just rearing the family to, you know, rearing the family, and having a full time job and doing everything else and doing it well. And looking good and smiling. And, you know, that's what I thought success was. And thankfully, through this process, success to me, is living your life, exactly who you are, and feeling connected to the people around you, to your family, to your group of friends, to the people you even work with, in real ways, being very vulnerable, and just being incredibly authentic. And getting up every day and living your life like that, to me is the definition of success.

Marcy Predmore  44:05  
What does success mean to you?

Cynthia Kersey  44:08  
Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's a very interesting question. I mean, to me, it's like, being of service. You know, it's like the thing that makes me the happiest, is, I just had a call today with our unstoppable Leadership Academy Academy facilitators, you know, and they're bringing this transformational education to students who a decade ago weren't even you know, girls weren't even going to school pass third, fourth, fifth grade, if they were lucky. And you know, never had an opportunity to learn or go to college or, you know, to really learn what it means to be a leader and have agency over your over your life and just listening to them and how Inspired, they are to be able to bring this this material, it's changed their life, it's changed the lives of the students. And it's just like, to me, that's success, you know, and it's not like you reach a certain pinnacle, or you make a certain amount of money or you give a certain amount of money away. It's like, how do you how do you live your life? Yes. And, you know, and then what difference can you make every single day? And I think when you give what you can, and, you know, you hold to the things that inspire you, obviously, me running my foundation, I'm inspired by that I've always, you know, is raised in a Christian home, and, you know, I thought when I was younger, I wanted to be a missionary and go work with kids in like, you know, Africa, you know, and not, you know, in to really meet their needs. So I, I don't believe so. It's kind of interesting that I'm that I'm doing this. But yeah, to me, it's like it's to live what you are here. What is ours to do? Mary Morrissey always says, says that, like, what's yours to do? And if you can really find what's yours to do? And then do it? Yeah. I think that's a really successful life.

Marcy Predmore  46:22  
My first question to you, Laurie is what does success mean to you?

Lori Mihalich-Levin  46:27  
Yeah, so I'm a lawyer,

and I love words and the definitions of words. And the first thing that I think of when I think of successes, well, what is its opposite, and its opposite, for me is failure, right? If you just think success and failure. And when I think about failure, I think about the fact that a lot of things that I used to think of as failures, I don't consider to be failures anymore, because I learned something from the process. And so for me, success means learning. And whatever it is that I learned from the last thing, if I am continuing to learn and continuing to grow, so maybe learning and growth, then I am succeeding, and whatever I am doing

Marcy Predmore  47:11  
that I absolutely love that. And again, if you're not growing and learning, you are dying, and that's that statement, but I love success being learning, because success truly is the constant growth of wherever we are, whether it whether it be career, whether it be parents, whatever authors, whatever it may be,

Lori Mihalich-Levin  47:37  
yeah, I'm happy to give a specific example of what I mean, too. So, um, you know, a couple of years ago, I was mom, I was partner at a law firm on a 60% schedule, I was CEO of mindful return. And then I decided to take on another job for an organization that I really deeply believe in, but to be the chief operating officer of this organization. And in retrospect, I look back and say, What a mistake what was I thinking like, what a failure to have taken on a job that I you know, overloaded myself with. And during the pandemic, I decided that three jobs two kids and a pandemic was not something I can handle. But looking back I, I realized that it wasn't a failure on my part, to have misjudged my own plate, it was that I learned what my limits are, I learned what my capacity is, I learned what I am so passionate about, and what is sort of secondary for me. And so it's not a failure. It's just a learning and, you know, saying, Okay, well, I will do that again. But, but it wasn't a bad experience. It was just, you know, another step in the career progression learning process.

Marcy Predmore  48:46  
Tanya, what does success mean to you?

Tonya Hofmann  48:50  
You know, it's an awesome question. And I think that it goes back to when, in 2005, I was trying to get over all of my fears. And I wrote down a list of things that I was afraid of, and I wrote down all the ridiculous ones all the way to the major ones, like speaking in front of people, you know, being doing a podcast. Back then there wasn't my guess. Right? But you know, it's about getting through those fears. And then respecting yourself and congratulate yourself when you've done something that you know is big for you. And then challenging yourself to every day go after a do something else that challenges you. And so I have a little I used to have stickers all over the places said while yourself today. And to me that meant I had to do something that I knew was challenging for me. It may from an outsider's perspective, like that challenges you. But there's a lot of times that just doing something that's out of the norm, or getting over a fear that no one knew you had. It's a huge to do and so you at certain point you start running into oh well I kind of did all of it. No, there's always something you can continue to do to place yourself. So yes,

Marcy Predmore  50:08  
what does success mean to you with the journey that you've had to walk through in the financial industry?

Kaitlyn Carlson  50:14  
That's a great question. It's funny that you that you parlayed into that, because I think for me, it comes down to three things. I think it comes down to belief, trust, and pride. Love it. And success means that because throughout the chapters of your life, the external success is going to mean different things. When I was little, like I said, I was an ice hockey player, girls didn't play ice hockey. So I had to get the belief from somewhere. And I had to trust that going to practice was going to make me better. And then I was proud of myself when that practice led to me becoming a better and better hockey player. And so I think that thread of those three things, you know, it was that in my use, in my career, it was a little bit harder. I, you know, I was a phenomenal employee, I always excelled there, until it was a toxic environment for me that I had to leave. And when I started theory, my company, I didn't really have the belief there. I mean, that was something that I had to work on, I had to work on that belief in myself. And it took me hiring a coach to tell me that I had a value and a confidence issue. And that was really earth shattering for me to hear, because I had never had a value and a confidence issue. at any other point in my life, I went to the high school I wanted to go to I went to the college I wanted to go to I got the job I wanted to get, you know, I just excelled. And then I became an entrepreneur. And then I had a value and a confidence issue. So I really had to dig deep to find that belief in myself. And that took a lot of work it like you said, I mean, we didn't give up that is a lot of days of just, I don't want to say putting your head down, but just just perseverance. And so I think success is just the mix of those three things, it's believing, yes, I can do this, it's trusting that the inputs are going to lead to the outputs. And then it's being able to look at yourself in the mirror and say I'm proud of myself, I'm proud of what I did. And I when I was kind of in my darkest moments of figuring out, you know, I was almost driven out of the industry completely by what I had experienced, I truthfully, was, I was looking at real estate to open a yoga studio. That's how close I was to leaving. And I had to go to the end of my life. And think about what I wanted it to look like, like if I was lying on my deathbed. And I said, I'm really proud of the life that I lived. What would that look like? Yes. And to me, it was still helping people with their money. It was still helping people, like my parents, you know, get access to information that really would be transformative for their personal finances. And so man has had a lot of work. He was exhausted thinking about it.

Marcy Predmore  53:28  
What does success mean to you?

Sarry Ibrahim  53:31  
That's a great question. So I think success is reaching the things that you want that are unique to you. And I wouldn't what I mean by that is that everybody has different needs and wants. And I think that success is finding your particular needs and once and then achieving them.

Marcy Predmore  53:48  
What do you think about failure?

Unknown Speaker  53:51  
What is that? What's that question?

Marcy Predmore  53:51  
give the audience some detail.

Sarry Ibrahim  53:56  
So I most in my situation, most of the good things that have happened in my life were as a result of failure. So failure was simply an indication that something didn't work at that specific time in place, it doesn't mean that it'll never work. And I think this is where people get mixed up with failure. A lot of people, you know, from conventional wisdom standpoint, feel that failure is kind of an indication to not proceed with something. And I think it's the opposite. I think it's the it's, it's just an indication that you should try it again. Most things in life, most good things in life don't really work the first time, you might have clues that they're going to work. But to actually have be successful, you need to do things like five or 10, or even 20 times until they actually work out. And this is something I've seen, like working with a lot of successful people is that it's not a matter of if it's just a matter of when so if it doesn't work today, it's going to work tomorrow, if it does work tomorrow, and it keeps going. It's almost like it's in loop mode where it just keeps going and going. And this is where perseverance comes in where you keep going regardless of the outcomes. You're going until you you hit the outcome you want. So failure is really just an indication that you need to do it again. And then You keep doing them the most. And then just like anything else in life, the more things you do it, the more likely you are to achieve it.

Marcy Predmore  55:05  
What does success mean to you?

Brigitta Hoeferle  55:10  
I get that question a lot. And I asked that question a lot, too, because it's, it's a definition that is very individualized. Absolutely. A Success for me is when there is a win win win. That means when there is a communication and a relationship, where you are getting the most out of what you need in that conversation, or that whatever we might be in, what is your well formed outcome? And what are you getting out of it? And are you getting out of it? Are you getting that out of out of the situation? And then the second win is, you know, what's in it for me? Yes. And often in business or in personal life, it's a win win. It's a win for you to win for me. But I'm going to add another layer to that. And that is this the third win? How is it benefiting? The greater good? Is there a benefit of a greater good? Is there a community that benefits from it? Is there a specific area of of our expertise, benefiting from it is there a special demographic benefiting from it, right? Toms shoes make such a great example of that, and many, many organizations have followed that, that for every. For every pair of shoes that you buy from Tom's Tom's gets money for it, you get a nice pair of pair of shoes for it, and Tom's turns around and donates a pair of shoes to someone in need. That, for me is a beautiful concept of win, win, win win.

Marcy Predmore  56:49  
Love it.

Janay Harris  56:52  
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